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Brett Favre wrong, but what about the Packers?

Posted on: July 14, 2008 11:51 pm
 

Let me just say that I am absolutely a Packers fan first, but Brett Favre has always been my favorite player.  I'm really not angry about this situation at all.  Whatever happens, happens.

Brett Favre has been taking a lot of flak lately.  I see his name being dragged all over the mud on these forums and elsewhere....but let's consider something for a second.  Let go of your thoughts of Favre being a drama queen and what not and let's talk about the thing that is actually important...winning football games.

I have to wonder...what are the Packers doing?  They have a few options here....invite Favre back onto the team, try and trade Favre, or release Favre.

Right now, with Favre retired, the only thing going on for them is taking somewhere around $2 Million in dead money as a cap hit.  Brett Favre sitting at home retiring is not actually helping the Packers whatsoever.   The thing is, Favre apparently does not want to stay at home.  He wants to play football....if not in Green Bay then somewhere.

Brett Favre being reinstated as a backup is not a legitimate possibility.  The cap hit would increase to about $12 Million.  You don't pay someone $12 Mil to carry a clipboard.....and to be honest Favre just has to say the word "I'm Back" and the Packers HAVE to make the decision.

Now is where things get interesting.  Let's look at the state of the Packers team right now.  They are a contender.  No doubt.  They have a lot of talented players.  You will hear about how young of a team they are and assume they are all set to go with a young QB to be great for awhile. 

The reality of the situation is that while they are a young team....five HUGE members of the team.....Al Harris, Charles Woodson, Donald Driver, Chad Clifton, and Mark Tauscher will have an average age over 32 when the season starts.   Al Harris hits 34 by playoff time.  Two years from now, these players are not going to be at the high level they are now.   Oh yeah, and with the exceptions of Aaron Kampmann, Nick Barnett, and POSSIBLY Ryan Grant they are the five best players on the roster.

This means the Window of opportunity is not that wide as the "Average Age" suggests that it is.   By Window of Opportunity I mean going to another Super Bowl.  After all, the franchise doesn't owe the fans Brett Favre, they don't owe them Aaron Rodgers, they don't owe them some vague statement about moving forward...they owe them making the most of a roster filled with solid players.

So who gives you the chance to win when they have to...which would be now?  Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre?

Let's say you choose Aaron Rodgers as your answer.  That means you really don't have much faith in Brett Favre's ability to take a team to the next level.  Why then, are they unwilling to let Brett Favre go?  Why then aren't they looking to shop Favre around and steal a first or second round pick in exchange for an ancient QB that can't take a team to the big dance?   I hope it's not because they are "Trying to protect Favre's Legacy in Green Bay" because if Favre is not going to be a Packer....that isn't what they owe the fans.  In reality it is because they have no guts.  They don't want to say they believe so much in Aaron Rodgers and take the chance of him failing next season while Favre runs rampant for a different city.

So, Packers front office, I implore you to do SOMETHING.  If you don't feel Favre can take this team all the way, part ways with him.  Free up some cap room.  Grab a Veteran backup player for another position that is still on the market.  Get some Value for him in a trade.  Do something to give the fans what you owe them....some way to make the team better out of this.  Do it soon so this distraction doesn't drag out into August which would also hurt the team.    Don't play games because Brett Favre upset you by playing the retire/do not retire card, games such as these by management should be beneath professionals.   If you think Favre is acting like a child, act like men, stand by your decision, and make a move.  The public turned on Favre but the crowds are fickle.  Tread Carefully Ted Thompson, Mark Murphy, and Mike Mccarthy....lest the crowds turn on you.

Carnage
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Posted on: July 15, 2008 4:25 am

Brett Favre wrong, but what about the Packers?

I honestly don't believe the situation is as urgent as you suggest Carnage. We already have Jennings, Jones and Nelson (I don't see much college football in Australia but the popular opinion on these boards is that he is the next Donald Driver) so we are OK into the future at WR. Surely a front office that has turned a team around from 4-12 to 8-8 to 13-3 and an NFC title game can find 2 tackles and 2 cornerbacks that will be good enough to keep this team up there in a 2 year time frame, who knows, at least some of these guys may already be here. The guys pulling the strings have proven themselves capable of building a team, I say we trust them. Of course there are no guarantees and we are both making the assumption that these young guys will continue to develop. If they don't then all of this is irrelevent any way.
As for the salary cap hit you talk of. I was under the impression that before Favre retired, freeing up $12M in cap space, we were already in danger of coming in under the CBA requirements for minimum team salaries. We may just need Favre's $12M cap number to fulfill that obligation.....
The fact is Rodgers may be a better option than Favre in the short term (the best judges of that are the guys making the decisions) yes it's a gamble, but don't most of the major decisions made in life involve an element of risk. Rodgers is almost certainly the better option in the long term. I don't think they doubt Rodgers ability, I suggest they don't want to make the risk greater by letting a guy go who they know can still play, only for him to join another team who could potentially beat us down the track.
I am a Packers fan 1st, 2nd, 3rd and last. To me this whole thing is not about who owes what to whom but what is best for the team and I think the answer to that comes back to the old question of do you want to win one now or three down the track? Nothing is guaranteed. We can't be sure that we will win a superbowl this year regardless of who our QB is just the same as we can't be sure that Rodgers will win any down the track. I am however confident that Rodgers will keep us in the playoff hunt more often than not over the next decade (and that is the 1st step to winning a superbowl) if we allow his development to continue and the only way for that to happen at this stage of his career is for him to play.



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Posted on: July 15, 2008 7:23 am

Brett Favre wrong, but what about the Packers?

     Good post OZ and Carnage!!  Being a enemy in your division (Bears Fan) I still think Favre is your best bet to win one now.  No matter which way you slice it.  Rodgers "COULD" be decent but in the past he has been kind of fragile.  As for the media frenzy I love it,  the more distractions the better.  Now if only Minnesota and Detroit could get a few arguements going,  mabey the Bears could steal the division.  HA,  I know I am drinking the ORANGE and BLUE KOOL-AID.  Anyways keep the circus going and good luck this season.  Hope your team makes the proper decision!!??  I know ours won't!



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Since: Sep 24, 2007
Posted on: July 15, 2008 6:10 pm

Brett Favre wrong, but what about the Packers?